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January 10, 2006

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butch

DB was here for only one week. He left Manila for New York on Christmas morning. Al, I'm looking forward to stories and pictures of your travels in India.

Skunkeye

I'm sorry you two missed DB's visit!
His lenghty post is remarkably insightful and honest and I really enjoyed it. I am impressed he rode his portable bike around Manila - people thought I was crazy for all the walking (target), jeepeneys, and busses I took while there but thats the best way to experience things. DB also made me homesick and miss all the wonderful experiences with creative, welcome Manila denizens like you and Frayed! anyways, hope to visit spring/summer....

torn

Butch, thanks, I'll correct it. That's even more impressive--he seems to have acquired more understanding of the country in 7 days than many who have lived here for 10 years!

Taylor, what you say is so true. The airconditioned car between airconditioned office and airconditioned luxury hotel/home that is most foreigners' experience of Manila is so limiting. I admit that I have not yet taken to pedalling down EDSA to work, but I do at least get the MRT every day. You must assuage that homesickness by returning here soon!

I am disappointed that neither of you commented on the lovely photo of Tony (the Che Guevara of the Philippines).

Major Tom

It's kinda sad that David Byrne's visit here was not so publicized. I almost did not know about it if I didn't come here. As a new wave enthusiast, I am a great fan of his even from the Talking Heads years.

You must have hit the right point; An Imelda musical may not be as viable as say, Evita or Miss saigon because her story lacks that significant human experience that an audience of stage plays usually long for. Her being still scot-free and virtually unaffected by her past misdeeds, if there'd be as to be pressume in the play I suppose, would render her story so lacking of justice at the end of it all.

torn

Major Tom -- I agree. The absence of justice and closure is one of the central facts of Philippine life (and one of the main reasons for the country's lack of progress) and nothing demonstrates that more clearly than the fact that Imelda Marcos is still swanning around town.

On one level, the failure to bring people like the Marcoses and their allies to justice can be seen as a simple failure of institutions, in this case the justice system. However, it seems to me that there are deeper sociocultural roots to all this, and that these have positive as well as negative aspects.

Filipinos are forgiving people, it seems to me. Contrast the attitude of Filipinos and Chinese (from mainland China) to their former occupiers, the Japanese. Filipinos seem to bear no grudges at all against the Japanese, while the Chinese are still bitter about their suffering during the second world war and obviously just waiting for the chance to get their own back. I can quite understand the Chinese point of view, but on balance the response of Filipinos seems a better way of dealing with the past. You can't fight the second world war for ever.

On the other hand, the lack of any resolution to deep, deep, problems (in the personal as well as the political sphere) means that they never go away, their influence lingers like the dried sweat on yesterday's clothes. That ain't healthy.

HALFORD E. JONES

Nice website and also the other link with multiple pages. I don't have time to comment too much but there are some things that might be said further on some of the items covered,etc. But I will say, that when I was in the Philippines, 1963-19-65 and then 1966-1968 and again from 1972(under martial law) until 1980, the Japanese went from being in danger for their lives in some areas(such as Cavite) to being accepted because of their work in mining,etc. and then when the Japanese tourist boom came parts of Manila looked like Tokyo with Japanese signs, especially in the Ermita. Don't be fooled too much by this notion of 'forgiveness'. The principle of SIR(smooth interpersonal relations) operates along with some other things. It would not take much to have an incident where by something a Japanese does to trigger some violence and hostilities,etc. You can read about me at http://museum.hikari.us/ under Filipino Martial Arts. Have to dash now. Keep up the good work. Halford Jones

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